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VOL. V.—No. 126.

SATURDAY,
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CONTENTS.

NOTES:—

QUERIES:—

REPLIES:—

MISCELLANEOUS:—

Notes.

PILGRIMAGES TO THE HOLY LAND.

In an article in the Retrospective Review (2nd Series, vol. ii. p.
234.) it is stated that the first book ever printed concerning
Pilgrimages to the Holy Land was the Peregrinatio Bernhardi de
Breydenbach, Moguntiæ, 1486; and in the Preface to the Pylgrymage of
Sir Richard Guylforde to the Holy Land in 1506, lately published by the
Camden Society, the learned editor remarks that the work of Bernhard de
Breydenbach, Opus transmarinæ Peregrinationis ad venerandum et
gloriosum Sepulchrum dominicum in Jherusalem (fol. Mogunt. 1486), is
believed to be the first book of travels that was printed. Having by me
notes of five works printed earlier than that of Breydenbach just
mentioned,—and all of these, with one exception, being Pilgrimages to
the Holy Land,—I forward them for publication in “N. & Q.,” and
probably some of your correspondents may be able to add to the list.

1. Ludolf von Suchen (“Ludolphus parochialis ecclesiæ in Suchen
rector”), De terra sancta et itinere Jhierosolymitano.—Three undated
editions, but in all probability printed before 1480, are mentioned in
Brunet’s Manuel du Libraire. A German translation, entitled, Von dem
gelobten Land vnd Weg gegen Iherusalem, was published at Augsburg in
1477 in 4to. The author travelled about the year 1340. “His journal,”
observes Dr. Robinson (Biblical Researches in Palestine, iii. p. 11.),
“is written with great simplicity, and has something of the marvellous;
but is decidedly the best itinerary of the fourteenth century.”

2. Marco Polo, the celebrated Eastern traveller, wrote an account of
his peregrinations in Italian, about the year 1300. A German translation
was printed at Nuremberg as early as 1477, with the following title:
Hie hebt sich an das Puch des edeln Ritters vnd Landtfarers Marcho
Polo; in dem er schreibt die grossen wunderlichen Ding dieser Welt. (In
folio.)

3. Sir John Mandeville. Both French and Italian editions of the
well-known “Marvaylous Travailes” of this worthy knight were printed in
1480. (See Brunet ut supr.) [290]

4. Santo Brasca, a gentleman of Milan, made a pilgrimage to Jerusalem
in 1480, of which he wrote a journal in Italian, and published it the
following year at Milan. Brunet gives the title as follows: Tutto il
suo Itinerario di giorno in giorno al sanctissima cita di Jerusalem
nell’ anno 1480, 4to. This is a very curious and rare book, written in
simple and natural style; and at the end of which are “Instructioni a
ciascuno che desidra fare questo sanctissimo viagio,” and two prayers in
verse: “1. Oratione per sancto brascha fatta a piedi nudi in Monte
Calvario a di 29 Julij, 1480: 2. Oratione facta in la vale de Josaphat a
la sepultura de la Vergene Maria.”

5. Johann or Hans Tucher, a counsellor (Rathsherr) of Nuremberg,
undertook a pilgrimage to Jerusalem and Mount Sinai in the year 1479, in
company with Balthasar, Duke of Mecklenburg, and two of his
fellow-citizens. The title of his itinerary in Brunet is, Wallfart und
Reise in das gelobte Land. Such was its popularity that it passed
through two editions in the same year (1482); the one appearing at
Augsburg, in folio; the other, corrected by the author, at Nuremberg, in
4to. (Vide Will’s Nürnbergisches Gelehrten-Lexicon.) The work is,
however, very rare. In it full directions are given for the guidance of
all such as might thereafter be disposed to venture forth with scrip and
staff on these pious but somewhat perilous expeditions.

Referring again to Breydenbach, Dr. Kitto (no mean authority) is of
opinion that the account which goes under his name was written by the
Dominican monk Felix Faber, who was Breydenbach’s secretary and
companion in the journey. (See Kitto’s Physical History of Palestine,
p. 9.)

PEREGRINE A.

SURNAMES.

The subject of surnames has more than once been referred to in the pages
of “N. & Q.,” and it may assist those of your readers who have
investigated the question of their origin and use, to offer them the
following examples of peculiar forms of personal designation which occur
in certain of the more ancient public muniments of the city of Norwich.

It is the opinion of Camden, Du Cange, Pegge, Sharon Turner, and other
writers, that the custom of appropriating a permanent appellation to
particular families, became fully established in this country at the
period (sooner or later) of the Norman Conquest. The instances, however,
exhibited below, prove that such custom was not, at any rate,
universally prevalent at that time amongst us. And, indeed, whatever
might have been the case in reference to “the high men of the lond,” it
is very certain that surnames, properly so called, were not completely
adopted by the mass of the people until the close of the fourteenth
century.

But as the intention of this Note is simply to adduce original examples
of individual designations, without inquiring into the circumstances
attending their acquisition, or pointing to the causes, obvious enough
for the most part, to which their various after-changes and
modifications are to be attributed, the subject calls for no other
general remark, except, perhaps, as to the prefixes “Le”[1] and “De,”
which, it may be noticed in passing, are, though not constantly, as is
commonly asserted, attached to names in records of an older date than
the time of Edward IV., when they began to fall into desuetude.

[1] This prefix was occasionally in Cheshire, and in the North
with few exceptions, contracted into “A,” as Thomas à Becket, Thomas à
Dutton, &c.

With these introductory observations are now given, from the source
above indicated,—

I. Examples of sons bearing a name different to that of their fathers:—

“1230. Will. fil. Silvestri, als. Will. Silvestre, fil. Silvestri
Pudding de Holmestrete;

“1232. Joh. de Worthestede, Tannator, fil. Simonis le Spencer;

“1239. Sim. Pellipar (Pelter, or Skinner), fil. Ranulph. le
Furmag. de N.;

“1242. Will. Pryse, fil. Clementis Mayne de N.;

“1249. Walt. de Swathingg de N. Aurifaber, fil. Joh. de
Birlingham;

“1273. Rob. Leck, fil. Add. de Tifteshale;

“—— Rad. fil. Willi de Castelaire (Castleacre) qui vocatur Rads.
de Lenn (Lynn);

“1333. Rycard de Byteringe, fil. Johis le Yunge (Ling), Ballior;

“1334. Joh. del Stonhous, fil. Ad. de Storston, Clici, C. N.

“1354. Willm. de Bernham, fil. Adam. del Sartyn defti.”

Attention is requested to the last entry but one of this list; and it
may be further mentioned, in reference to it, that sub ann. 1270 occurs
this notice:

“Adam le Clerk de Stirston et Anger (?) ux. ej.“

II. Examples of wives described by names other than those borne by their
husbands:

“1255. Rob. de Wurthestede, et Basilia le Ro’, ux. ej.”

1288. Will. de Devenschyr, le Wayte, et Alicia de Wetinge, ux.
ej.

1307. Johes Mengy de Besthorp, et Martha de Felmingham, ux. ej.

—— Thos. Toyth, et Juliana le Ropere, ux. ej.

1316. Agnes Richeman (Rickman), Relicta Ric. Holveston defti.

1318. Rob. de Poswyk, Taverner, et Alicia Godesman, ux. ej.

1352. Isabell. de Mundham fuit ux. Willi de Dunston, et nunc uxor
Simonis Spencer.” [291]

It is also to be noticed that wives, if more than once married, are
frequently described in old documents by the names, distinctly and
united, of their several husbands.

III. Examples of changes in the form of particular designations:

Between 1332 and 1348 the name borne by the famous knight, Sir Rob. de
Salle, commemorated by Froissart, and who was killed by the insurgents
near Norwich in 1381, is severally written, de la Sale, de Salle, de
Aula, de la S’aule, de Halle, Saul, and Halle.

In temps. Ed. II. and III. is the following name thus modified: Fitz
Benedict, Benediscite, Bendiste, Bendish, Bennett.

The twenty-ninth bishop of Norwich (1446-1472) is styled Walter Lyhart,
Le Hert, and Hart.

In 1337 we have “Jas. de Briseworth als. de Bliclingg;” and in 1368,
“Johes. de Welburn (Frat. Thome de Welburn nuper defti), als. de
Cobeslound de Welburne, Taverner.”

Then, again, it were easy to produce innumerable examples of
professional and business descriptions, which have originated many
modern surnames, as Joh. le Lytester (Lister, Dyer), Regin, le Paumer
(Palmer), Bateman le Espicer, (Spicer), &c.

But this Note has already somewhat unduly encroached upon your pages;
and it is now brought to a conclusion with the single observation, that
many of the causes of various readings and differences of form in the
same original surname, as well as of a total change from one designation
to another, are now in full force and daily practical operation in many
isolated parts of the country, where, from the predominance of identical
family and baptismal appellations, some method, such as is illustrated
in the foregoing examples, must obviously be adopted, in order to
distinguish one individual from another. In many of the remote valleys,
indeed, of the North of England, a more comprehensive reply might be
given than that which the unsuccessful gaberlunyie woman, mentioned by
Sir W. Scott, received in a certain Scottish dale, when, in the
bitterness of her disappointment, she exclaimed, “Are there no
Christians here?” and was answered, “Christians! nae; we be a’ Elliots
and Armstrongs!” So—but certainly not under like circumstances—it
might be replied, “We’re a’ Meccas (Ang. Metcalfes)!”

COWGILL.

Number of Surnames.

—Probably some of your numerous correspondents
could give me some idea as to the number of surnames there are in this
country used by British subjects. We have no good work on surnames, as
those of Lower and others do not go sufficiently into the subject to
satisfy the curiosity of those who wish to know the origin and date of
the names in use among us. A work of some study and research, giving all
the names in use at present in the country, and showing when they were
first adopted or brought into the country, with the changes that have
been made in them, would be very interesting, and as worthy, if not more
so, than many that are brought before the public.

J. H.

P.S.—I would suggest that the names should be classed in the different
periods of history, beginning with the Britons.

LICENSE TO MAKE MALT IN 1596.

Among the old family deeds relating to the manor of Wishanger, I find
the following curious and interesting document. It affords evidence that
in 1596 there was a dearth of corn which was general through the
kingdom; that barley was then much used for bread; that there was a
custom, either general, or occasioned by the scarcity, that the poor
should be served in open market, at an accustomed hour; that one of the
means relied upon to supply food to the people was to restrain the
making of malt; and, therefore, that malt liquor must have been very
generally consumed by our forefathers at that time.

The writing is in perfect preservation, and the ink jet black.

I give it in the original orthography, according to the literature of
those easy times when every man spelled that that was right in his own
eyes and the world was little troubled with dictionaries or critics.

JULIUS PARTRIGE.

Birmingham.

“Glour.—Wee, her Mats Justices of the Peace within this
Countey, whose names are hereunder writen accordinge to the late
orders publyshed by her Matie and the Lo. of her most
honorable privye Counsell for and concerninge the dearth of corne
and graine, and for the better effectinge whereof we have taken
recognizance of all such as shall make any malte, what quantitye
they shall make, and where they shall buy it, and when, and to
sell the same soe by them converted into malte in the open
markett next unto them adioining, and for that none can soe doe
without he be thereunto especially licenssed by us and pesented
by the Jury Have therefore licenssed and by these psents doe
licensse the Bearer hereof Georg Fowler of Hibley to convert into
Malte one quarter weekly and to buy the same Barley soe by him to
be converted in the any the next Mkett Towne unto him adioininge
and that one houre after the poor shall be served at the least.
praying yose to whom it shall and may appertaine quietly to
pmitt and suffer him soe to doe whout anye of yor lette
interupcion or molestation the said Georg Fowler comitinge
nothing to the hdance of our last orders only (these[2]) psnts in
execution. [292]

“In Witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names the
fourthe of December in the nine and thirtiethe year of the raigne
of our Sovraigne lady Elizabethe by the grace of God of England
Fraunce and Ireland Queene Defender of the ffaith A.D. 1596.

“H. WINSTON.
⁎⁎⁎
⁎⁎⁎”

[2] The word “these” is not in the original; and two of the
three signatures at foot are not readable.

WHERE LOLLARD WAS BURIED, AND WHAT BECAME OF HIS BONES.

In referring to the passage of Heda’s history relating to
bishop-boiling, the following curious fact caught my eye. Speaking of
the same bishop, Florentius de Wevelichoven, he says:

“Fecit et exhumari ossa cujusdam hæretici Matthæi Lollaert atque
ante atrium Pontificale comburi, cineresque in fossas urbis
dispergi.”—Hist. Episcopor. Ultraject. p. 259.

Now though the Christian name, Matthæus, of this Lollaert does not
agree with that usually assigned to Lollard, viz., Walter; nor yet
this assertion that his bones were dug up, and burned at Utrecht, with
the current story that Lollard was buried alive at Cologne; yet it is
evident from the note upon this passage on p. 263., that Heda is
speaking of the founder of the sect of the Lollards. In this note he
refers to Prateolus and Walsingham, to which I turned in order to
ascertain where he got his information; but, alas, in vain! They only
give a very meagre account of the origin of the Lollards. Heda must
therefore have had some independent source from which he wrote, as he
could hardly have invented the story. The form of name, Lollaert,
would make it more than probable that Lollard was a Dutchman, which
agrees very well with the account that he preached in Germany.

How much is it to be wished that some member of the many learned Dutch
Antiquarian Societies now in existence, would endeavour at last to
clear up the history of Lollard by reference to the records of the city
of Utrecht, if they are still in being, and extend so far back as the
fourteenth century.

Florentius became Bishop of Utrecht in 1379, and died 1394.

J. B. MCC.

British Museum.

DEAN SWIFT’S LIBRARY.

The letters and other MSS. of Dr. John Lyon, who was prebendary at
Rathmichael, in the archdiocese of Dublin, between the years 1755 and
1764, by some chance or another recently got into the possession of a
shopkeeper in this city, by whom they have been, for the most part, used
as waste paper. The originals from which the following transcripts have
been made, are now in my possession.

“The Booksellers’ Certificate.

“We the undernamed have examined and considered ye Catalogue of
ye late Dr. Swift’s Books, to which we find were added Dr.
Wilson’s Books. The whole is done with great exactness, and
correctly printed. And in consideration that ye Gentleman who
made and corrected ye said Catalogues not only pieced and
numbered all ye said Books, but examined them also leaf by leaf,
in order to distinguish those with a Star in ye Printed
Catalogues that were noted and observed upon by Dr. Swift; which
added very much to rise ye value of ye said Books at ye time
of Sale, as may be seen by ye Prices paid for many of them. We
are of opinion that ye Gentleman who took all ye trouble above
mentioned did deserve to be paid one shilling per Pound upon ye
sale of ye said Books. Given under our hands this 26 day of
January 1749.

“George Faulkner.
John Torbuek.

“Rockfield, Fryday Evg.

“Lord Shelburne’s compliments to Doctr Lyons, and has many
thanks to return to him for his Incomparable Present of Dr.
Burnet’s History, the property of Dean Swift. It has been his
daily Intention to wait upon Doctr Lyons, but has been prevented
by the attention which his private affairs have required. He is
just return’d from the Co. Meath. Lady Arabella Denny joins Lord
Shelburne in requesting the favour of Dr Lyons’ company
to-morrow to Dinner, at Peafield, [293] near the Black Rock. Ld
S. embarks on Sunday. [Septr 1770.]”

J. F. F.

Dublin.

FOLK LORE.

Churching of Women.

—In Herefordshire it is considered contra bonos
mores for the husband to appear in church on the day of his wife’s
churching, or, at all events, in the same pew with her. An antiquary of
that county considers this a relic of Roman paganism, connected with the
worship of Bona Dea. Query, is this so elsewhere?

C. S. P.

Wassailing Orchards in Sussex.

—I am happy to be able to send you the
following particulars respecting the apple-tree superstitions, as they
prevail in this county; and it is as well to preserve the
recollection of them, for I suspect they are wearing away. In this
neighbourhood (Chailey) the custom of wassailing the orchards still
remains. It is called apple-howling. A troop of boys visit the different
orchards, and encircling the apple-trees they repeat the following
words:

They then shout in chorus, one of the boys accompanying them on the
cow’s horn; during this ceremony they rap the trees with their sticks.
This custom is alluded to in Herrick’s Hesperides, p. 311.

R. W. B.

Lucky Omens.

—”The schoolmaster with his primer in his hand,” to quote
Lord Brougham, is unquestionably abroad, and dispelling, with surprising
rapidity, the prejudices of the people; in some cases, perhaps, to make
way for prejudices yet stronger and more tenacious than those they
displace. You are doing good service by collecting and recording some of
those that are fast disappearing. In this neighbourhood I know ladies
who consider it “lucky” to find old iron; a horse shoe or a rusty nail
is carefully conveyed home and hoarded up. It is also considered lucky
if you see the head of the first lamb in spring; to present his tail
is the certain harbinger of misfortune. It is also said that if you have
money in your pocket the first time you hear the cuckoo, you will never
be without all the year. The magpie is a well-known bird of omen. The
following lines were familiar when I was a boy:

T. D.

Lambs.

—The Denbighshire peasantry watch with great anxiety for the
position in which young lambs are seen by them the first time in the
year. If their heads are towards them it is lucky; if their tails, great
misfortunes will ensue.

AGMOND.

Key Experiments
(Vol. v., p. 152.).

—Perhaps J. P. Jun. may not be
aware that an experiment somewhat similar to these is practised in the
Isle of Man. The operator holds a thread between the finger and thumb,
with a shilling fixed horizontally to it, gradually drops the shilling
into a glass, and after it has once become stationary, the shilling
begins to oscillate, and, as the superstition goes, invariably strikes
the hour of the day against the glass. I have frequently practised it,
and consider the motive power to be the pulse, which is completely under
the operator’s control. This performance has been known in the Isle of
Man certainly more than a century, and bears a resemblance to the
experiments of Mayo and Reichenbach with the Od Force, or the vagaries
of the Magnetoscope.

Perhaps some of your correspondents can instance cases and tricks of
this kind of much earlier date.

AGMOND.

Minor Notes.

Rhymes connected with Places.

—There are many villages in England, the
names of which have old traditionary couplets attached to them,
illustrating some natural or other peculiarity; some such have already
incidentally found their way into the pages of “N. & Q.” Might not a
complete collection be easily made, and would it not be an interesting
one? I send, as a beginning, two Staffordshire villages in my immediate
neighbourhood, which are very characteristically described. One is—

being very lonely, and out-of-the-way; and the other—

which explains itself.

W. FRASER.

French Dates.

—I annex a singular connexion between the dates of some
of the most important occurrences in the history of France, which was
mentioned to me by a French lady, with whom I had the pleasure of
travelling from Soissons to Paris the day after the melancholy death of
the [294] Duke of Orleans, in July 1842. By following out the same
principle of addition, the next great national event appears to be in
store for the year 1857. Of course the superstitious reader must shut
his eyes on 1848.

E. N.

“Black Book of Scone.“

—The Black Book of Scone, containing the
history of Scotland from Fergus I., was in Sir Robert Spottiswood’s
library, and was given by Lewis Cant (a Covenanting minister) to
Major-General Lambert, and by Lambert to Col. Fairfax; which book
Charles I. had ransomed from Rome by a considerable sum of money: and it
is certain Archbishop Spottiswood had it and the Black Book of
Paisley, signed by three abbots, when he compiled his History, which,
with the famous Red Book of Pluscardine, Buchanan says he had, and
frequently cites.—Sir George Mackenzie’s Defence of the Antiquity of
the Royal Line of Scotland; and also Lives of Scotch Writers.

The fate of the Black Book of Scone may be a clue to the inquirer
after the Black Book of Paisley. It is not now in the library at
Spottiswood; and most of Sir Robert Spottiswood’s property was pillaged
and ransacked during his imprisonment.

L. M. M. R.

Cracked Glass.

—Some years ago, being a schoolboy at the time, I spent
my Christmas holidays at my grandfather’s house in Somersetshire. The
members of the family were assembled for evening prayer, when suddenly
music, resembling that of an Æolian harp, was heard, produced apparently
by some person upon the lawn immediately beneath the window. As soon as
the prayers were concluded I opened the hall door, and was greatly
surprised to find the musician had departed. On returning to the
drawing-room I was informed that the moment I had left the room the
music ceased. Believing that some village friend had come to serenade
us, we drew our chairs round the fire in expectation of his return. A
few minutes only elapsed when the music was again distinctly heard. A
second visit was made to the hall door, but with no better success. It
was then resolved to open the shutters, which was no sooner done than
the mystery was clearly explained. During the day a pane of glass had
been cracked, and the music was produced by the two pieces of glass
vibrating against each other. We found, from repeated experiments, that
it required the atmosphere of the room to be at rather a high
temperature to produce the effect, for the moment the door, or one of
the other windows, was opened, the vibration ceased. I have only to add
that the music was very pleasing to the ear, and consisted of rapid
cadences. I have often mentioned the circumstance, but I never found any
one who had met with a similar musical fracture.

M. A.

Spanish Verses on the Invasion of England.

—I carry in my memory the
following verses. Are they to be found in any Spanish canzonero? I
certainly have not invented them.

Here my memory fails me.

L. H. J. T.

Queries.

LEGAL WORTHIES, QUERIES RESPECTING.

I shall be much obliged for any information or hints as to the following
Queries:—

1. Is there any list extant of the Prothonotaries of the Supreme Courts
of Judicature from the time of Edward III. downwards, or any source from
which their names could be obtained? Was John Hayward a prothonotary of
one of the courts in Edward III.’s time, or during the reign immediately
following? or can any information be furnished about a lawyer of that
name about that time?

2. Is anything known of a place called “Schypmen Hall” existing in
London or elsewhere in the time of Edward IV.?

3. When did “Mr. Goldsborough, one of the Prothonotaries of the Common
Banke,” flourish?

4. Is anything known of Traherne, said to have [295] been reader at
Lincoln’s Inn temp. Hen. VIII., whose Reading on Forest Laws is much
referred to by Manwood?

5. Is anything known of Frowick, a lawyer probably of the sixteenth
century?

C. W. G.

TOWN HALLS.

I have to thank two of your correspondents for their Notes in answer to
my Query respecting mediæval towns built on a regular plan in England.
They have reminded me of Hull and Wokingham, with both which places I
was previously acquainted; neither of them is by any means of the same
regular and perfect plan as the English towns in France, but they
approximate to it in some degree; and I am not the less obliged for
being reminded of them. My success in this instance encourages me to
trouble you with another Query. Can any of your correspondents furnish
me with information respecting any mediæval town halls remaining in
England? I am acquainted with several, but believe there are many more
than is commonly supposed. Some of the twelfth and thirteenth centuries
are mentioned in Mr. Turner’s work on Domestic Architecture, as the
County Hall at Oakham; the Guildhall at Lincoln; the King’s Hall at
Winchester. In addition to these, the Guildhall at Exeter is partly of
the thirteenth century, and partly of the fifteenth. The old Town Hall
at Colchester of the twelfth has, I believe, been destroyed within these
few years. The Town Hall at Winchelsea is of the time of Edward I.,
though mutilated. The Town Hall at Aldborough is of the fifteenth
century, or earlier. The hall of St. Mary’s Guild at Coventry is a
well-known and beautiful example. The Town Hall of Weobly in
Herefordshire is, if I remember rightly, an early example of timber
work. These are a few instances which occur to my memory. I have no
doubt there are many others; and, as the subject is one of considerable
interest, perhaps you will not object to assist me in collecting
information upon it. You will observe that I include under the general
name of Town Halls all public halls, whether called by that name or by
any other. I am aware that they do not all belong to the same class,
strictly speaking; but I should be glad to know of other examples of any
of them.

J. H. PARKER.

Oxford.

Minor Queries.

Chasseurs Britanniques.

—This regiment is noticed under the head of
“Foreign Corps on English half-pay,” in the Army List for 1850-1, pp.
494. 530. Can any of your readers favour me with some particulars
regarding it, and when and where it was raised, &c.?

E. N.

Knights Templars and Freemasons.

—Can any of your readers inform me
what connexion has ever existed between the Knights Templars and the
Freemasons, as there is a degree in Freemasonry called the Knight
Templar’s degree? It is supposed that the persecuted Templars betook
themselves to the Freemasons’ lodges, and secured their protection. The
two orders became closely connected, the succession of Grand Masters
kept up, and the ritual of the Templars preserved. There is a French
order of Knights Templars, which claims direct succession from Jacques
de Molay, the last Grand Master of the original order; but the
Freemasons say that this is a spurious body, and that the only
legitimate claimants to representation of this once powerful order are
the Freemasons.

I shall be glad if any of your readers can give such information as may
aid my inquiries into this subject; or if they can furnish me with the
titles of such works as are most likely to aid my researches. My object
is to trace the history of the order of Knights Templars subsequent to
the persecution and death of Jacques de Molay, and to ascertain the
correctness of the statements of those who profess to be the proper
representatives of the order.

E. A. H. L.

St. Christopher.

—Can any of the readers of “N. & Q.” supply any
information which will assist my researches into the real meaning of the
representations of St. Christopher, which are so frequently found on the
north walls of churches? I have read Mr. Duke’s essay on the subject in
the Prolusiones Historicæ, but do not quite agree in his view of the
meaning which these singular paintings were intended to convey. Why
should this saint, of whom so little is correctly known and of whom
Alban Butler gives a very scanty account, occupy such a very important
position in the iconography of the mediæval church, and which it appears
has not been maintained by the Roman Catholics of the present day? I am
quite aware of the doggrel lines occasionally found underneath these
representations, ascribing extraordinary powers of cure to the picture
when looked upon by the faithful; but I cannot think that this reason
alone would have led to the adoption of this extraordinary
representation in almost all our parish churches. Are there any known
representations of St. Christopher in painted glass; if so, where?

E. A. H. L.

Arnold Bilson’s Wife.

—Can any of your readers inform me who was “the
daughter of the house of Bavaria” married to Arnold Bilson,
great-grandfather of Thomas Bilson, Bishop of Winchester (who died
1616); and under what circumstances the marriage took place? [296]

It seems there was some romance in the case, as, according to memorandum
(Lib. Coll. Arm., c. 19. p. 48., and Harl. MS. 1101. p. 29. [1582]),
the arms granted by the duke to his son-in-law were—”azure, per pole, a
rose and thistle, pper;” crest, “a horn, or.” This union of what I
apprehend to be the royal and plebeian flowers, would seem to indicate
that the husband was merely a “roturier;” and, indeed, the “horn” itself
may point to his occupation, as it is the simple hunting instrument of
the time.

Arnold Bilson after his marriage left Germany, and settled in England.

T. C.

Exeter Controversy.

—W. Gifford, in his Autobiography, says, that
the shoemaker to whom he was bound apprentice “was a Presbyterian, whose
reading was entirely confined to the small tracts published on the
Exeter Controversy.”—Transl. of Juvenal, ed. 2. p. x. What
controversy, and whose, was that?

A. N.

Education in the Time of Elizabeth.

—What means were employed in the
time of Queen Elizabeth for the education of the people? Were there any
schools at that time, such as we have now, for the education of the
lower classes? Or was it confined chiefly to the higher orders of
society?

JAMES COE.

Manchester.

Sword Swallowing.

—If some one of your learned correspondents could
point out any other references to the useful accomplishment of sword
swallowing, the information would confer a favour on me. The reference
to which I allude is about the date of B.C. 326, and is, unless my
memorandum be inaccurate, Plu. Lycur. c. 19, and runs thus:

“Ἄγις μὲν οὖν ὁ
βασιλεὺς, σκώπτοντος
Ἀττικοῦ τινὸς,
τὰς Λακωνικὰς
μαχαίρας εἰς τὴν
μικρότητα καὶ
λέγοντος,
ὅτι ῥᾳδίως αὐτὰς οἱ
θαυματοποιοὶ
καταπίνουσιν ἐν τοῖς
θεάτροις, Καὶ μὴν
μάλιστα, εἶπεν, ἡμεῖς
ἐφικνούμεθα τοῖς
ἐγχειριδίοις τῶν
πολεμίων.“

ÆGROTUS.

Livy quoted by Grotius.

—Grotius, in his Commentary on Matt. v. 13.,
gives as a parallel passage to “τὸ ἅλις τῆς γῆς,” the
following quotation from Livy: “Græcia sal gentium.” Can any of your
correspondents inform me where in Livy this passage occurs?

T. K. R.

Eleanor, Lady of the Ring.

—In a family pedigree I find—

“Eleanor, lady of the ringe, daughter and heir of Thomas Ddu,
married John, first cousin of William Herbert, first earl of
Pembroke.”

What is the meaning of the sobriquet “Lady of the ringe?”

W. R. D. S.

Catalogue of Pictures.

—Some information is requested of an octavo
volume of 252 pages, being a catalogue of a collection of pictures
consigned to Mr. Samuel Pawson, wine merchant in Cecil Street, Strand,
without date or name, or residence of printer; it contains succinct
annotations “of the several masters whose performances are herewith
exhibited.” These are very curious, and the prices affixed to each
picture (800 in number), as added together by some possessor of the
volume, amount to 55,379l. It appears to have been highly esteemed;
and, amongst other autographs, has “J. P. Roberts, Kingsgate;” “J. P.
Powell, Quex park.”

E. D.

“Well bobbit, Blanch of Middleby.“

—Can any one tell me where I can
hear of an old tune which was well known in my father’s early days,
called “Well bobbit, Blanch of Middleby?” I can now find no trace of it.

L. M. M. R.

Letter to a Brigadier-General.

—If Thomas Lord Lyttelton wrote the
Letters of Junius, who was the author of the Letter to a
Brigadier-General, published in 1760? This letter is now very generally
believed to have been written by Junius, when Thomas Lyttelton was about
fourteen years old!

W. C.

Dr. Fell.

—Can any one inform me who the author of the following lines
is, and their original application:—

J. N. C.

Grostete, Bishop of Lincoln.

—Dibdin, in his Northern Tour, vol. i.
p. 97., says of this distinguished prelate:

“We may anticipate the portrait of this truly great man drawn to
the life in the intended biography of my friend Mr. Willson.”

Dibdin published this in 1838. Has the memoir of Grostete ever appeared?

I may add, as a pendant to this Query, that two years back I saw a
beautiful English MS. of Grostete’s on vellum, at the library of the
English College at Douay, out of which some British traveller, to whom
it had been obligingly lent, had cut every one of the illuminations.

O. T. D.

Almas-cliffe.

—During a brief sojourn at Harrogate, Yorkshire, I have
visited two remarkable groups of rock, locally known as Great
Almas-cliffe and Little Almas-cliffe: the former crowning a lofty
ridge about five miles south-west of this place; and the latter standing
upon a wild, heathery moorland, about three miles north of the other.
Both command most extensive views; and, on the table-rock of each, I
noticed circular basins, with channels by which superfluous fluid may be
carried off. Tradition says, that in remote ages they were used as
druidical altars; and, that in later days, after the introduction of
Christianity [297] into England, mass was occasionally celebrated upon
them. In some of the local guide-books they are called Almias Cliff.
Whence is the name derived? Can it be a corruption of holy mass, or
hallowmas?

G. H. of S.

Harrogate.

Amyclæ.

—What special ordinance of taciturnity had the burghers of
Amyclæ?

MORTIMER COLLINS.

Cynthia’s Dragon Yoke.—

Can any of your correspondents inform me to what classical writer, or to
what source, Milton is indebted for Cynthia’s “dragon yoke?”

H. T. P.

Boston, Massachusetts, U. S. A.

London Genealogical Society.

—Will you, or one of your correspondents,
oblige a subscriber with information as to the above society? Is it in
existence, and has it published any of its works, and how obtainable?

W. P. A.

The Article “An.”

—It is asserted that the article an is prefixed
before six words only that begin with the letter h. Is hospital one
of them? The others are, I believe, heir, honest, honour, hotel,
humble.

NIL NEMINI.

Tunbridge Wells.

“Black Gowns and Red Coats.“

—Can any of your readers give me any
information about a poem called “Black Gowns and Red Coats?” It is a
satire on Oxford, which was published in 1834, at the time of the Duke
of Wellington’s installation as Chancellor; but the satire was so
severe, that it was at once suppressed. The author is said to be dead; I
should like to know something of the circumstances of its publication,
for I had once seen it, and it bore the marks of very great genius. If
any one has a copy to dispose of, I would gladly buy it.

S. F. C.

Oxford.

Coleridge’s “Friend.”

—Who is the person alluded to in the following
note in Coleridge’s Friend, 1st edition, No. 8. Oct. 5, 1809, p. 124.?

“He is gone, my friend, my munificent co-patron, and not less the
benefactor of my intellect! he who, beyond all other men known to
me, added a fine and ever-wakeful sense of Beauty to the most
patient accuracy in Experimental Philosophy and the profounder
researches of Metaphysical Science,” &c.

J. M.

Wycherley’s Verses on Plowden and Lady Sunderland.

—In Phillips and
Herbert’s History of Shrewsbury, pages from 263 to 266, vol. ii. 4to.
1837, giving an account of the ancient family of the Plowdens, and their
claim to the barony of Dudley, allusion is made to a passage in Baker’s
History of Northamptonshire respecting some comic verses of the poet
Wycherley on Plowden, of Plowden Hall, and the Countess of Sunderland. I
cannot find these verses in Wycherley’s Works in the British Museum.
Can any of your readers inform me where they are to be found? Baker
seems to allude to them as being well known in his time.

ALBION.

Minor Queries Answered.

“Salusbury Welsh Pedigree Book.“

—Having sometimes occasion to
investigate the lineage of Irish families derived from Wales, I am very
anxious to learn, through your valuable oracle, where may now be that
genealogical collection. According to the notes I have of it, it
contained “the pedigrees of all the gentlemen in North Wales, and of
some adjacent counties, with their arms finely illuminated;” and took
its name from the compiler, John Salusbury, Esq., of Erbistock, who
lived about the middle of the seventeenth century, and is reported as
having executed the labour with great accuracy. Does its actual scope
justify the above description, and where is it now? About the year 1780
it was in the possession of Sir Watkin Williams Wynn, the very surname
on which I am at present engaged.

JOHN DALTON.

48. Summer Hill, Dublin.

[In all probability, the present Sir W. W. Wynn could give some
information upon the subject if applied to.]

The Earl of Erroll.

—I have somewhere seen it stated, that in virtue
of his distinguished office as Great Constable of Scotland, which was
granted to his ancestry by King Robert Bruce, in 1312, his lordship is
by birth the first subject in Scotland; and in right of this privilege,
on all state occasions, where the sovereign is present, appears at his
or her right hand, and takes precedence of the entire peerage of
Scotland. Is it so?

PETROPROMONTORIENSIS.

[His Lordship cannot be by birth entitled to precede the whole
peerage of Scotland, though as Lord High Constable, when
attending the sovereign, he may have that precedence.]

Heraldic.

—A friend has sent me the following Note “from a local
paper:”

“In the hall, Fawsley, Northamptonshire, is an escutcheon,
containing no less than 334 quarterings.”

Can any of your correspondents verify this statement, or refer me to any
other example of so full a blazonry?

W. SPARROW SIMPSON, B.A.

[The shield is probably that of Knightley, whose quarterings
are very numerous. We do not know where to refer our querist to
an emblazoned shield, but there are other families whose
quarterings would be as [298] numerous, viz. Howard Percy, and
Brydges Chandos, Duke of Buckingham, &c.]

Family of Grey.

—Thomas, second Marquess of Dorset, had four sons;
Henry, Thomas, Leonard, and John. Henry was created Duke of Suffolk, and
was with his two brothers, Thomas and Leonard, beheaded in 1555, for
taking part in Sir Thomas Wyatt’s rebellion. John was ancestor of the
Earl of Stamford. The Queries I wish to make are, were Thomas and
Leonard, or either of them, married? If they were, what were the names
of their wives, and did they leave issue? And most particularly did
Thomas?

C. DE D.

[Thomas, the second brother of the Marquess of Dorset, married
and left a daughter and heir, Margaret, wife of John Ashley,
Esq., Master of the Jewels to Queen Elizabeth, and she left
issue. Edward, the third son, died s.p. Some pedigrees call
Edward Leonard, but upon what authority does not appear.]

Coinage of Richard III.

—Is the mint mark of the cross to be found on
any of the coins of Richard III. struck at London? I am aware that it is
to be found on pieces from the country mints; but on metropolitan coins
his heraldic cognizance (the boar’s head) is the more usual, if not the
only mark impressed.

RICHARD F. LITTLEDALE.

Dublin.

[We are not aware that the cross occurs as a mint mark on the
coins of Richard III., either of the London or provincial mints.
If our correspondent has a coin of Richard III., with the plain
cross on the reverse for M. M., the probability is that it is
struck from the die of a reverse of Edward IV., on whose coins it
does occur.]

Edward Bagshaw.

—Can any of your correspondents inform me whether Sir
Edward Bagshaw, of Finglas, near Dublin, who settled in Ireland about
the commencement of the seventeenth century, left other children besides
two daughters; one of whom married William, eldest son of Sir William
Ryves, and by him had issue Bagshaw, William, Thomas, and Francis Ryves,
together with a daughter married to a Captain Burrowes? I also wish to
ascertain whether Castle Bagshaw, co. Cavan, the seat of the late Sir
William Burroughs, derives its name from this branch of the family of
Bagshaw. Any information, genealogical or historical, concerning the
above Sir Edward Bagshaw, would be acceptable.

W. B.

Cambridge.

[This statement does not appear quite correct. Thomas Ryves, the
second son of William, is said to have married Jane, daughter of
Captain Burrows. See Hutchins’s Dorset, vol. iii. p. 366., ped.
of Ryves.]

Couched, to couch.

—What is the earliest example of the use of this
word in the sense of “to embody,” thus: “he couched his thoughts in
excellent language?” Johnson cites Dryden and Atterbury as authorities
for the word, which, me judice, ought to be banished from the English
dictionary, since we have several older and more expressive terms of
synonymous import.

MARK ANTONY LOWER.

[In Baret’s Alvearie (1580) we find the meanings of the word
couch, “The knitting and couching of wordes in talke—Sermonis
compositio.—Quintil. To joine and couch—componere et
coagmentare verba.—Cic.” In Cotgrave, “mettre par escrit” is
explained, to “couch in writing:” and in Phillips’ World of
Words, couch is defined “to comprehend, or comprise.” These are
somewhat analogous uses of the word.]

Marriage of Mrs. Claypole.

—What was the date of the marriage of
Oliver Cromwell’s daughter with Mr. Claypole? Any one giving a Note in
reply to this Query, will much oblige

B. N.

[Noble, vol. ii. p. 375., says that Claypole “in 1645-6 was
married to Mary, the second and most favoured daughter of Oliver
Cromwell, then of Ely in Cambridgeshire, Esquire.”]

Replies.

ORIGINAL LETTER OF GENERAL JAMES WOLFE.
(Vol. v., pp. 34. 136. 185.)

I beg to renew my acknowledgments to the various gentlemen who have
afforded additional information respecting this brave man. So little has
been recorded of his personal history, that every item which can be
gleaned is valuable. It is certainly strange that no proper memoir of
one so distinguished in arms as Wolfe has yet been written. His career,
though short, was brilliant and embraces a period of time, as well as
events, which would render a sketch of his life, by a competent writer,
singularly interesting. Materials do not seem wanting; the detached
pieces of information, and references to sources where more may be
obtained, which have already appeared in “N. & Q.” since I ventured to
start the subject in October last, indicate, that with a little industry
and research in proper quarters, Wolfe’s history can yet be written to
advantage. England’s young hero has, in this respect, been too much
neglected. Surely this national reproach will not be allowed to
continue.

In the Gentleman’s Magazine for January last, there is a very
interesting letter from Wolfe to a young officer on the subject of
military studies, supplied from the rich MS. stores of Mr. Robert Cole.
I am enabled to contribute the fragment of another letter from Wolfe,
also to a very young officer, pointing out how he ought to conduct
himself on entering the army. This fragment was discovered within these
few weeks, in the same old [299] military chest where the twelve
letters in my possession were found, to which I formerly alluded. This
fragment, though neither dated, signed, nor addressed, is in Wolfe’s
handwriting beyond all doubt. I have compared it with his other letters,
and not only do I find the resemblance perfect, but the paper on which
the fragment is written is identically the same with several of these
letters, the water-mark being the very appropriate one for a soldier,
“pro patria.” This newly discovered portion of Wolfe’s letter is
written closely on two pages of a sheet of post paper; and from
circumstances I am inclined to think the date must have been in the end
of 1757, when he was at Blackheath, soon after his return from the
descent on Rochefort, in which he held a command. I am unable, however,
to point out the name of the young officer for whose advantage the
fragmentary epistle was written; but he was evidently one in whose
welfare Wolfe took much interest, and intimate in Wolfe’s family. The
introductory words, “Dear Huty,” seem to be an affectionate
abbreviation of the young gentleman’s surname; but how the fragment came
amongst the papers of Wolfe’s other friend, Lieut.-Col. Rickson, to whom
the whole of the twelve letters in my possession are addressed, I cannot
at present say. Here is an exact copy, viz.:

“Dear Huty,

“By a Letter from my Mother I find you are now an officer in Lord
Chs. Hay’s Regiment, which I heartily give you Joy of, and as I
sincerely wish you success in Life, you will give me Leave to
give you a few Hints which may be of use to you in it. The Field
you are going into is quite new to you, but may be trod very
safely, and soon made known to you, if you only get into it by
the proper Entrance. I make no doubt but you have entirely laid
aside the Boy and all Boyish amusements, and have considered
yourself as a young man going into a manly profession, where you
must be answerable for your own conduct. Your character in life
must be that of a Soldier, and a Gentleman: the first is to be
acquired by application and attendance on your duty; the second,
by adhering most strictly to the Dictates of Honour, and the
Rules of Good Breeding. To be more particular in each of these
points; when you join your Regiment, if there are any Officer’s
Guard mounted, be sure constantly to attend the Parade, observe
carefully the manner of the officers taking their Posts, the
exercise of their Espontoon, &c.; when the Guard is marched off
from the Parade, attend it to the Place of Relief, and observe
the manner and form of Relieving, and when you return to your
chamber (which should be as soon as you cou’d, lest what you saw
slip out of your Memory), consult Bland’s Military Discipline on
that Head; this will be the readiest method of learning this part
of your Duty, which is what you will be the soonest call’d on to
perform.

“When off Duty get a Sergt or a Corporal, whom the Adjutant will
recommend to you, to teach you the Exercise of the Firelock,
which I beg of you to make yourself as much master of as if you
were a simple soldier; the exact and nice knowledge of this will
readily bring you to understand all other parts of your Duty,
make you a proper judge of the performance of the Men, and
qualify you for the post of an Adjutant, and in time many other
employments of Credit. When you are posted to your Company, take
care that the Sergeants or Corporals constantly bring you the
orders; treat those officers with kindness, but keep them at a
Distance, so will you be beloved and respected by them; read your
orders with attention, and if anything in particular concerns
yourself, put it down in your Memorandum Book, which I wou’d have
you constantly in your Pocket ready for any Remarks; be sure to
attend constantly morning and evening the Roll Calling of the
Company, watch carefully the Absentees, and enquire into reasons
for their being so, and particularly be watchfull they do not
endeavour to impose on you sham Excuses, which they are apt to do
with young officers, but will be deterr’d from it by a proper
severity in detecting them;——”

Here, unfortunately, the remainder of the sheet has been torn off, and
the continuation of the excellent precepts it no doubt contained, is
irretrievably lost. Enough has luckily been preserved to show what an
admirably disciplined soldier mind Wolfe possessed, taken in conjunction
with the outline of military reading, pointed out in the letter
contributed by Mr. Cole, already alluded to, and written with the same
kindly object (the instruction of youthful officers), probably only a
few months prior to the date of the mutilated one.

As it may be thought desirable to say something more than I have done,
regarding the packet of Wolfe’s letters in my custody, I beg to state
that the officer to whom they are all addressed, was William Rickson, a
native of Pembroke. He was eight years older than Wolfe. They appear to
have served together in Flanders. Both were at the battle of Dettigen,
and their names appear in the list of promotions consequent on that
victory. Rickson and young Wolfe were also in the same regiment,
commanded by Wolfe’s father, in Flanders. I think it was then known as
“Onslows.” Both father and son appear to have felt a strong attachment
to Rickson: this appears from the letters. On the part of James Wolfe in
particular, this attachment was of the most ardent description. In one
letter, dated Banff (Scotland), 9th June, 1751, he thus writes to
Rickson: [300]

“I believe that no man can have a sincerer regard for you than
myself, nor can any man wish to serve and assist you with more
ardour;” and “Attachments between men of certain characters do
generally arise from something alike in their natures, and should
never fall from a certain degree of firmness, that makes them the
same all the world over, and incapable of any diminution. I have
(as you justly acknowledge) a perseverance in friendship, that
time, nor distance, nor circumstance, can defeat,—nay, even
neglect can hardly conquer it; and you are just as warm and as
near me in North America as you would be upon the spot.”

Rickson survived Wolfe eleven years, and I possess the key of the tomb
in which his remains repose in Restalrig churchyard, near Edinburgh. A
fine miniature of him in his antique regimentals also exists; and it is
interesting to contemplate the lineaments of a countenance so familiar
to Wolfe, and of a man to whom the latter seems to have communicated his
inmost thoughts. There are passages in the letters indicative of this to
a degree, that I felt bound in honour not to disclose. Rickson died a
lieutenant-colonel in 1770. His antique military chest remained in
possession of relatives in Scotland almost forgotten, till about three
years ago curiosity prompted the examination of a mass of old papers,
covered with dust, lying at the bottom of it. A number of curious
documents have thus been brought to light, including a file of letters
to Rickson from the Duke of Queensbury (under whose auspices he
constructed the military roads in Gallowayshire) and other distinguished
personages of the last century, but best of all twelve invaluable
letters from the lamented Wolfe, tied up by themselves, probably by
Rickson, as memorials of his bosom friend who fell in the arms of
victory. It was, as already said, among these old papers that the
fragment of the letter above quoted was also found lately, on a more
careful inspection of the antique chest in which they lay. I was so much
struck with the noble sentiments expressed by Wolfe in the letters, that
I ventured to write a short sketch of him from very imperfect materials,
which appeared, along with the letters themselves, ad longam, in
Tait’s Edinburgh Magazine for December, 1849. Had I been aware of some
of the facts which have since been contributed to the “N. & Q.,” I would
have modified certain passages in the narrative. All I aimed at,
however, was merely to elucidate the letters which accident placed in my
custody. But I now earnestly invite some competent writer to rescue
Wolfe’s history from the undeserved neglect and obscurity in which it is
at present shrouded. I shall cheerfully allow any such party access to
the whole letters, under proper guards for their safety, and my address
has been left with the Editor accordingly.

Ȝ.

Glasgow.

EARL OF CHEPSTOW.
(Vol. v., pp. 126. 204. 261.)

The seeming difficulty regarded in these communications arises from
Hooker’s unauthorised translation of “Comes Strigulensis” into “Earl of
Chepstone,” and in a phrase of ancient parlance appearing a Title of
Dignity. The error does not exist in the original work, as Giraldus
wrote “Dermutius Morchardi filius, Lagenensium Princeps, Ricardo Comiti
Strigulensi, Gilleberti Comitis filio, S.”—Camden’s Anglica, &c., p.
767.

The town, called in later times Chepstow by the English, and sometimes
Cas Gwent, or Castell Gwent, by the Welsh, is clearly Strigul (as
shown in Lhwyd’s Commentariolum, p. 102. edit. 1731, and
Archæologia, vol. xxix. p. 31.); but these names are not precisely
equivalent. In early documents the Town, Vill, or Burgh is thus
variously named, and the style of the present Court Baron is, “the
Honour of Chepstow, alias Striguil;” but in old charters and
chronicles the Lordship Marcher, the castle, and the honorary
description of its lords, are usually designated by the word “Strigul”
(variously written) only; and of this “Hooker alias Vowell” was
perhaps ignorant. Giraldus himself is correct, as shown above.

As to the style of “Earl of Strigul,” Dugdale admits the use of it by
Richard Fitz-Gilbert, who occurs as “Comes Strigulensis” above, and as
“Ricardus Comes de Striguil Dermuciigener,” in Ralph de Diceto (p.
590.). His descendant Gilbert Marescall is also termed “Counte de
Strogoile” in the petition of Margaret, daughter of Thomas de
Brotherton, at the coronation of Richard II. (Vincent’s Corrections,
p. 345.) There is a stronger instance in Selden’s Titles of Honour (p.
617. edit. 1631), correctly cited from Hoveden, and mentioning the fact
of William Marshall and Geoffrey Fitz-Peter being severally girded
“gladio Comitatus de Striguil et gladio Comitatus de Essex,” at the
coronation of King John, with remarks on their previous rank as earls,
their administration of earldoms, but their non-investiture, and their
sitting at the royal table in consequence of this investiture.

Nevertheless, it is laid down in the third Report on the Dignity of a
Peer, p. 146., that such expressions are to be considered vague. It
refers, for instance, any description of Roger de Montegomeri, as Earl
of Arundel (if such exists), to residence; adding, “that is, he was an
earl, and from his residence was denominated Earl of Arundel, as the
Earls of Pembroke were denominated Earls of Strigul, a castle which
appears to have been built by William Fitz-Osborn, Earl of Hereford, and
which had no connexion with the county of Pembroke.”

As to the immediate parentage of Earl Richard Fitz-Gilbert, proof will
be readily found in the [301] Foundation Charters of St. Neot’s Priory
and Tintern Abbey, in Gorham’s St. Neot’s, p. cv.; Monasticon, vol.
v. p. 267.

GEO. O.

S. P. near Chepstow.

DEATHS FROM FASTING.
(Vol. v., p. 247.)

In the parish church of Tenby there is an emaciated figure, lightly
wrapped in a winding-sheet, which is supposed to represent Tully, Bishop
of St. David’s, of whose death a tradition, similar to that related by
BURIENSIS, is current. I should mention that there is also in the same
church another monument of a bishop (as is shown by the still
distinguishable mitre and crozier), which is also stated to be his. I
have been informed that where a monument was surmounted by a
representation of an emaciated corpse (emblematic of the poverty of
spirit in which the original was supposed to live and die), it was usual
to erect a second effigy, representing the departed as he actually
appeared to his fellow men. This last sentence I must however put in the
form of a Query, in the hope that some of your correspondents may answer
it with special reference to the supposed tomb, or tombs, of Bishop
Tully?

SELEUCUS.

There are two monuments of the description respecting which
BURIENSIS
desires information in the county of Devon. One against the south wall
of the chancel of Feniton Church, is an elegant altar tomb ornamented
with quatrefoils, on which lies the effigy in a shroud, tied at the head
and feet. This may be assigned to the thirteenth century, but nothing
appears to indicate whether it is the monument of a priest or of one of
the Malherbe family, who were the lords of the soil. The other similar
monument is in the north aisle of the choir of Exeter Cathedral, and is
of later date. The skeleton figure lies on a slab in a recess under an
obtuse arch, all highly decorated with tracery, panels, and foliage.
This is said to be to the memory of Canon Parkhouse, buried in 1540. See
Gough. Sepulch. Mon. Introd. p. 111.; and Britton’s Exeter
Cathedral, p. 139., and plate xxii.

J. D. S.

In the north aisle of Exeter Cathedral there is an instance similar to
that mentioned by your correspondent, BURIENSIS, of a monument with the
figure of a human skeleton lying at full length on a winding sheet. The
following inscription is over the arch:

Tradition ascribes it to Bishop Lacy’s tomb, and the vergers even at the
present day inform visitors that it was erected to commemorate his
attempt to fast during Lent. It is an exquisite piece of work. An
engraving of it may be found in Britton’s Exeter Cathedral. I have
heard that there is a similar monument in Salisbury Cathedral, and it
appears probable, from there being more than one, that it was a
favourite device to represent the instability of human grandeur.

EXONIENSIS.

There is a tradition similar to that related by BURIENSIS, and alike
unfounded, concerning Fleming, Bishop of Lincoln, who is buried on the
north side of the choir of Lincoln cathedral in a chapel of his own
foundation. On the floor is an image of a decayed skeleton-like body; on
the tomb above, his effigy arrayed in his episcopal robes.

K. P. D. E.

I would remind your correspondent BURIENSIS of the splendid monument in
Winchester cathedral, beneath which are deposited the remains of Richard
Fox, Bishop of Winchester, and founder of Corpus Christi College,
Oxford, who died here on the 14th of September, 1528. In an oblong
niche, under the third arch, lies the figure of Bishop Fox, represented
as an emaciated corpse in a winding-sheet, with his feet resting on a
skull. It is a tradition of the vergers that he died whilst endeavouring
to imitate the example of Our Lord by a fast of forty days.

The figure of Stephen Gardiner, Bishop of Winchester, is also
represented, like that of Fox, as a skeleton; and the same tale of a
forty days’ fast traditionally delivered by the same authorities.

E. S. S. W.

Winton.

BURNING FERN BRINGS RAIN.
(Vol. v., p. 242.)

Your correspondent μ asks whether any traces of such a popular
belief exist at present.

In the Highlands of Scotland, where at this season the heather is burned
by the shepherds, the belief is general among the people; I may add that
it is a belief founded on observation. In Australia a hot wind blowing
from the north caused (in part at least) by bush fires in the interior,
is invariably succeeded by rain from the opposite part.

It would not be difficult, perhaps, to assign a satisfactory reason for
a meteorological fact, which by a misnomer is dubbed “Folk Lore.”

W. C.

It is believed in the neighbourhood of Melrose that burning the heather
brings rain.

It must be remarked that Tweeddale runs mainly west and east; that the
heather-covered hills are all to the west of this place. West wind
brings rain.

†

In the north of England, and in Scotland, and probably in all moorland
districts of the country, it is the practice of shepherds in spring,
when the [302] heather is dry enough, to set fire to it and burn large
tracts of it, in order to get rid of the old woody plants. The young
heather which springs up from the roots produces much better and more
palatable food for the sheep. In this process, which takes place at the
same time in a whole district (viz. when there has been no rain for some
time), the whole air becomes loaded with smoke, and a very misty state
of the atmosphere is produced. It is the general belief throughout the
south of Scotland and in the Cheviot range, that this burning “doth draw
downe rain.”

Luckily this season, though there has been much moor burning, the
general expectation has been agreeably disappointed, and the weather has
now continued perfectly dry for several weeks, and appears likely to do
so for some time to come, to the great delight of the farmers, as most
propitious for sowing their grain of all kinds.

J. SS.

Lammermuir.

THE FISH CALLED “VENDACE.”
(Vol. iii., p. 301.)

A short time since, an eminent naturalist directed my attention to
Yarrell’s History of British Fishes (2 vols. 8vo. 1836, and
Supplement, 1839), with reference to this curious fish.

Mr. Yarrell does not attempt to identify the vendace with any foreign
species, nor to answer the question, who introduced them in Lochmaben?
However, his account of the other species of the genus Coregonus in
Great Britain is well worth giving.

The species of the genus Coregonus are numerous in Europe, and several
of them are so similar to each other that they are often confounded.

“Some writers have even considered the Vendisse of Lochmaben as
the same with the Powan of [Loch Lomond] Perthshire, the
Schelly of Cumberland, the Gwyniad of Wales, and the Pollan
of Ireland. This is not the case, for the Pollan of Ireland is
distinct from the two species of Coregonus found in Great
Britain.”

“The Gwyniad is very numerous in Ulswater and other large lakes
of Cumberland, where on account of its large scales it is called
the Schelly. The fish is not unlike a herring in appearance;
the Welsh term Gwyniad has reference to their silvery white
colour.”

Izaak Walton notices it at the end of chap. xiii.:

“Nor would I have you ignorant of a rare fish called a
Guiniad,” &c.

The Pollan is principally found in Loch Neagh, also in Loch Derg and
Loch Erne. Mr. Thompson, of Belfast, says:

“The habits of this fish do not, with the exception of having
been in some instances taken with the artificial fly, differ in
any marked respect from those of the Vendace of Scotland, or the
Gwyniad of Wales, and are in accordance with such species of
Continental Europe as are confined to inland waters, and of whose
history we have been so fully informed by Bloch.”

In 1835, Mr. Thompson published some observations on this species. The
earliest notice of it that he has seen, occurs, he says, in Harris’s
History of County Down, 1744.

“The Vendace or Vendis (Coregonus Willughbii); Vendace,
Jardine; Vangis and Juvangis, Penn, Brit. Zool., vol. iii. p.
420.; Vendace, Knox, Trans. R.S.E., vol. xii. p. 503.

“But little is known of this delicate fish,” says Mr. Yarrell,
“beyond what has been published by Sir William Jardine, Bart., in
the 3rd volume of the Edinb. Journal of Nat. and Geog. Science,
and by Dr. Knox. The Vendace is only known in the lochs in the
neighbourhood of Lochmaben, in Dumfriesshire. Sir W. Jardine
says, ‘The story that it was introduced into these lochs by the
unfortunate Mary, Queen of Scots, is mentioned by Pennant in his
description of the Gwyniad, (and it is likely that his
information was derived from this vicinity,) and is still in
circulation. That the fish was introduced from some continental
lake, I have little doubt, but would rather attribute the
circumstance to some of the religious establishments which at one
time prevailed in the neighbourhood, and which were well known to
pay considerable attention both to the table and cellar. The
introduction must have taken place by means of spawn: the fish
themselves could not be transported alive even a few miles. They
are not confined to the castle loch, but are found in several
others, some of which have no communication with that where they
are thought peculiar. In general habits, the Vendace nearly
resemble the Gwyniad, and indeed most of the allied species of
the genus.”

Mr. Yarrell gives representations of two magnified specimens of their
food.

JARLTZBERG.

MACARONIC POETRY.
(Vol. v., p. 166.)

Perhaps some of the correspondents of “N. & Q.” who take an interest in
this style of composition are not acquainted with the two following
productions, which appeared at Oxford several years ago, the author of
the first being an accomplished first-class man, and, I think, a member
of Worcester College:

1. “Viæ per Angliam ferro stratæ.” (The Railroads);

2. “Poema Canino-Anglico-Latinum, super adventu recenti serenissimarum
Principum.” (The Duchess of Kent and the Princess Victoria.)

The perusal of MR. CORNISH’S curious communication (Vol. v., p. 251.)
also reminds me of the subjoined clever and amusing verses which were
written by a talented friend and schoolfellow, whose premature decease
occurred about two years ago, and which appear to be well worthy of
publication. It will be seen that the words, which [303] are all Latin,
are quite unconnected and unmeaning, but when separated or united they
become converted into our own language, or rather into a mixture of
English and Irish. I have thought it absolutely necessary to annex a key.

E. N.

Replies to Minor Queries.

Cooper’s Miniatures of Cromwell
(Vol. iv., p. 368.; Vol. v., pp. 17. 92. 189. 234. 255.).

—Eight years ago I saw, at the house of my friend,
A. Macdonald, Esq., since deceased, but then living in Hyde Park Square,
three miniatures, which were said to be by Cooper, of Cromwell and his
two daughters. The miniatures of the women were, I thought, stiff and
harsh; but that of their father (of which only the head was finished)
appeared to me to be the finest painting of the kind that I ever saw. I
examined it through a strong magnifying glass, when the face exhibited
all the truth and force of a portrait. A high value was set upon it; but
I do not know whether it was sold, or where it is.

ALFRED GATTY.

[We take this opportunity of stating that we have availed ourself
of General Fox’s invitation, and examined the beautiful miniature
of Cromwell, described by him in our Number for the 6th instant,
and so considerately left by him at Colnaghi’s, for the
inspection of all who are interested in the subject. The General
having placed beside it the volume of Carlyle’s Cromwell,
containing the engraving from Cooper’s miniature in the
possession of Archdeacon Berners, we are bound to agree with him
that the Archdeacon’s may be “better painted;” but General Fox
may certainly congratulate himself upon being the possessor of a
work of very high art, as well as of great historical interest;
and one which we are extremely pleased to have had the
opportunity of examining. It will, we believe, remain on view
until the 31st.]

The Vellum-bound Junius
(Vol. iii., p. 262.).

—Your correspondent
MR. HAGGARD tells us, that from the time he read the private correspondence
between Junius and Woodfall he has examined all book catalogues that
came in his way, in the hope of finding a copy, or the copy, “bound in
vellum”—so bound by Woodfall, for and at the express desire of Junius.
Of course the edition so bound was “the author’s edition,” as Junius
calls it, the edition of 1772, printed by H. J. Woodfall. At last, says
MR. HAGGARD, “the long-wished-for object appeared at the Stowe sale;”
but though, [304] he bid eight pounds, he was not so fortunate as to
obtain it. Thus far all is simple and clear enough. But then MR. HAGGARD
subsequently informs us (Vol. iii., p. 307.) that the reason of his
“being so desirous to procure this copy” was, because it was “not only
bound in vellum, but was printed on that article”—that is, as I
understand it, because it was not the copy bound by Woodfall for
Junius. I am at a loss to reconcile these statements. However, as I
observe by the periodicals that
MR. HAGGARD’S first statement is getting
into circulation, and that it now assumes this form—that the
vellum-bound copy of Junius presented by Woodfall to Junius was sold at
the Stowe sale, I think it right to state, that the Stowe copy, printed
on and bound in vellum, was, as I am informed on good authority, not the
edition of 1772—not a Woodfall edition at all—but the common
illustrated edition, printed more than thirty years after, by Bensley,
for Vernor and Hood.

V. B. J.

Sept (Vol. v., p. 277.).

—Dr. Ogilvie’s derivation is absurdly
far-fetched. Sept is notoriously from the Latin septus or septum,
inclosed, an inclosure, and it is applied to one kindred or family
living in or round the inclosure in which they herded their cattle. See
Spenser’s Ireland; see also Cole’s Dictionary:

“SEPT, an inclosure; the multitude of the same name in Ireland.”

In ancient Rome certain classes of voters were called Septs, from the
septa or inclosures in which they were arranged.

C.

Many Children
(Vol. v., p. 204.).

—I am indebted to the Rev. J.
Sanford, orderly preacher at the Rolls chapel, for the subjoined curious
statement, which you may add, if you please, to the instances of female
fecundity already recorded in your pages.

The Marchese Frescobaldi, the representative of one of the most ancient
Florentine families, is still possessed of a portrait of his ancestress,
Dionora Salviati, wife of Bartolomeo Frescobaldi of the same house. She
gave birth to fifty-two children, never less than three at a time; and
there is a tradition in the family that she once had six, and that
twelve were reared. The portrait was painted by the celebrated Bronzino,
who died in 1570, and has recorded the remarkable circumstance in the
following inscription placed under the picture, and in some degree has
thus made himself responsible for the authenticity of the story:—

“Dionora Salviati moglie di Bartolomeo dei Frascobaldi, fece 52
figli, e mai meno di tre per parto, come riferesce Gio. Schenzio
nei libri delle osservazioni amirabili, cioe nel libro quarto de
Parto a carta 144.”

BRAYBROOKE.

Relative to extraordinary births, I may mention that within half a dozen
miles of this city, and not more than six weeks since, a poor woman gave
birth to four children, two of each sex, and all, with the mother, doing
well. Some millions are born without such, as I may term it, a
phenomenon.

In a very late Brussells paper I find it stated, that in nine years the
wife of a tradesman had twenty-four children, three on each
delivery,—”chose désespérante (it is added) pour le mari, qui désirait
transmettre son nom, car c’étaient toutes des filles.” Mercier, in his
Tableau de Paris (1786) quotes L’Histoire de l’Académie des Sciences
of the preceding century for a similar fact, where it is asserted that a
baker’s wife had twenty-one children in seven years, three at each
birth, and that he had again three children at a birth by a servant
maid.

J. R. (Cork)

Hog’s Norton
(Vol. v., p. 245.).

—Your correspondent who writes from
Ashby-de-la-Zouch will, it is probable, be surprised to find that Hog’s
Norton is almost in his own immediate neighbourhood. In Curtis’
Topographical History of Leicestershire (printed, by-the-bye, at
Ashby), he subjoins to the modern names of places the ancient names as
found in Domesday Book, Inquisitiones post mortem, &c. It appears that
Norton juxta Twycross was in other days “Nortone, Hoggenortone, Hog’s
Norton.” There is, then, no doubt as to which of the many Nortons in
England is Hog’s Norton: but whether there is now, or ever was, an organ
in the church; or whether a Mr. Pigge, or any number of pigs, played
on one there, I know not.

S. S. S.

Cromwell’s Skull
(Vol. v., p. 275.).

—Your correspondent J. P., who
inquires in your last respecting the identity of a certain skull with
that of Oliver Cromwell, will find valuable information on the subject
in an article in the fifth volume of the Dublin Quarterly Journal of
Medical Science (1848), entitled—

This article is very ably written, and throws much light on a vexed
question.

ANTIQUARIUS.

Athenæum.

Eliza Fenning
(Vol. v., pp. 105. 161.).

—It is long after the “N. &
Q.” are published that I get sight of a number, or I should have urged
(what may probably have been already done) the very great importance of
obtaining from the workhouse, or wherever else in Suffolk or Essex it
can be obtained, an authentication of the report by Turner, that he was
the poisoner of the family in Chancery Lane, for which crime Eliza
Fenning was executed. One would hope that a question of so much and such
serious monument would not be [305] permitted to remain undetermined,
if by any possibility it can be cleared up.

I well knew the medical man who attended the case, and gave evidence at
the trial,—he was cruelly assailed afterwards by some who had taken a
prejudice against him, and no doubt suffered in his practice in
consequence.

T. D. P.

Hexameter on English Counties
(Vol. v., p. 227.).

—The lines referred
to by M. are to be found in Grey’s Memoria Technica and Lowe’s
Memories, p. 172., and runs thus:

C. S. P.

Fairest Attendant of the Scottish Queen
(Vol. v., p. 152.).

—Your
correspondent who inquires about an attendant of the Scottish queen who
disappeared when she was in England, will find a notice of the same
person in the appendix to Tytler’s History of Scotland, reign of Queen
Mary. There is a letter there from the English ambassador at Paris to
his Court, with an account of the Queen Dowager’s visit to France: he
mentions that King Henry had been captivated by one of the ladies in
Mary’s train, who, it was reported, was with child to him. The frail
fair one left with her mistress, but returned shortly thereafter. I
think she must be the person referred to in the Grey Friars’
Chronicle.

J. F.

Belfast.

Ecclesiastical Geography
(Vol. iv., p. 276.).

—AJAX, who asks the name
of some work on this subject, may perhaps find his wants supplied in
Geographia Ecclesiastica, &c., “Auberto Miraeo auctore.”

D. ROCK.

Llandudno, on the Great Orme’s Head
(Vol. v., pp. 175. 235.).

—MR. WM. DURRANT COOPER,
in “N. & Q.,” has quite mistaken the subject of my
inquiry. I am well aware of the cavern, or old copper mine, supposed to
have been worked by the Romans; but the place I inquire about is of a
different description, in every respect, and is only six feet across,
and eight or ten feet high, and fitted up as a place of worship, with a
font, altar, seats, &c. I hope some one who has seen it will be able yet
to throw some light on the subject.

L. G. T.

Lichfield.

“Wise above that which is written”
(Vol. v., pp. 228. 260.).

—Professor Scholefield, in his valuable Hints for an improved
Translation of the New Testament (p. 64. 3rd edit.), renders the words
τὸ μὴ ὑπὲρ ὃ γέγραπται φρονεῖν (1 Cor. iv. 6.), “not to be
wise above that which is written,” and supports this rendering by clear
and (to my mind) satisfactory argument.

C. P. PH***.

Nightingale and Thorn
(Vol. iv., pp. 175. 242.; Vol. v., p. 39.).

—The
origin of this fancy has not yet been reached. The earliest mention of
it that I have met with is by Gascoigne:

Again, in The Spanish Tragedy:

And in The Two Noble Kinsmen:

C. P. PH***.

Friday at Sea
(Vol. v., p. 200.).

—H. M. S. “Wellesley,” bearing the
flag of the Earl of Dundonald, on leaving Plymouth for the West Indies,
got under way on Friday the 24th of March, 1848; and, after she had
got outside the breakwater, she was recalled by the Port-admiral, and
did not leave again until the next day: it was to take in the mail-bags,
but the firm belief of the men was, that the gallant admiral purposely
left something behind to avoid going to sea on such an unlucky day as
Friday.

W. B. M.

Dee Side.

I heard it stated the other day, in conversation, that the ill-fated
Amazon commenced her voyage on a Friday. Can any of your readers say
with certainty if this was the fact?

W. FRASER.

Latin Names of Towns
(Vol. v., p. 235.).

—I transcribe, for the
benefit of your readers, the full title of the largest Geographical
Dictionary which I know to contain the information M. asks for. Dr.
William Smith’s New Dictionary of Classical Geography may be expected
to supply the desideratum, in regard to places known to the Greeks and
Romans, but will not, I presume, take up all the names in Baudrand’s
Dictionary. Its title-page reads as follows:

“Novum Lexicon Geographicum, in quo universi orbis oppida, urbes,
regiones, provinciæ, regna, emporia, academiæ, metropoles,
flumina et maria, antiquis et recentibus nominibus appellata,
suisque distantiis descripta, recensentur. Illud primum in lucem
edidit Philippus Ferrarius Alexandrinus, totius servorum cœtus
supremus Præsul, S. T. D. atque in Ticinensi Academia publicus
Metaphysices et Mathematices Professor.

“Nunc Vero Michael Antonius Baudrand, Parisinus, prior
commendatarius de roboribus, de novo mercato, et de [306]
Gessenis, hanc ultimam editionem, ita emendavit, illustravit,
dimidiàque parte auctiorem fecit, ut Novum Lexicon jure optimo
dicatur.

“Accesserunt sub finem Dominici Magri, Melitensis, Theologi,
Cathedr. Viterb., &c., appendices et correctiones: atque in has
M. A. Baudrand notæ.”

The work is very useful, but of course no longer new. It is in two thin
folios, and was printed at Eisenach in MDCLXXVII., by John Peter
Schmidt.

O. T. D.

Gospel Trees
(Vol. ii., p. 407.; Vol. v., p. 157.).

—BURIENSIS, in a
recent Number, says that he has somewhere read of a tree called the
“Gospel Elm.” May, in his Guide to Stratford-upon-Avon, published
about twenty years since, gives the following description of an elm,
which is probably the one referred to by your correspondent. After
describing the hamlet of Bishopton, he writes:

“In varying our return to Stratford, pursuing thus the path along
the Henley road, we pass at the town’s entrance the now decaying
‘Gospel Tree,’ that still indicates the boundary of the borough
in this direction, towards the ‘Dove house close.’ In a
perambulation of the boundaries, made here on the 7th of April,
1591,[3] this elm—judging from its now decayed and
weather-beaten aspect—is the one there noted as seated on the
boundary in this direction, whence the line is therein stated as
continuing, to ‘the two elms in Evesham highway.’ Such a
perambulation was anciently made yearly, during Rogation week, by
the clergy, magistrates, and burgesses; not omitting, for
evidence’ sake, the boys of the grammar school, who then
doubtless received, as still is customary, some sensitive
reminiscences of local limitation.”—May’s Guide to
Stratford-upon-Avon, p. 92.

[3] “Presentment” in
the possession of R. Wheler, Esq.

The author gives a very plausible reason for the tree’s peculiar name,
in the ensuing remark:

“When the bound mark was a tree, as in the present instance, a
passage of Scripture was read beneath its branches, a collect was
recited, and a psalm was sung. Hence its sacred designation, long
retained, but now well nigh forgotten.”—Ibid. p. 93.

SOUTHAMIENSIS.

Gospel Oaks
(Vol. v., p. 209.).

—Near the hamlet of Cressage, co.
Salop, is a very old oak tree, under which tradition says the first
missionaries of the Gospel to this land preached. The name of the
hamlet, Cressage, is, I have been told, a contraction of Christ’s
Oak.

There is also, near Dudley, a place called Round Oak; and on the road
between Walsall and Lichfield, near the latter, may still be seen the
old Shire Oak.

At Stanford’s Bridge, co. Worcester, is a place called the Apostles’
Oak; and in the parish of Hartlebury, in the same county, is a tree
bearing the name of the Mitre Oak. Both these places, and also a
Rock, have contended for the honour of being the scene of the
conference of St. Augustine and the British bishops, A.D. 603. (Nash,
vol. ii. p. 399.)

J. N. B.

West Bromwich.

“He that runs may read“
(Vol. v., p. 260.).

—In Cowper’s Tirocinium,
v. 80., are these lines:

LOUISA JULIA NORMAN.

Wild Oats
(Vol. v., p. 227.).

—I think I can give a clue to the Query
of BEAU NASH respecting the origin of this phrase. In Kent, if a person
has been talking at random, it is not uncommon to hear it said, “you are
talking havers,” or folly. Now I find in an old dictionary that the
word havers means oats; and therefore I conclude, that the phrase
“to sow your wild oats” means nothing more than “to sow folly.”

RUBY.

Portrait of Mrs. Percy
(Vol. v., p. 227.).

—The picture of Mrs. Percy
holding in her hand the scroll, mentioned by W. S. G., is still in the
house of Ecton. I have made the inquiry from the present Mr. Isted of
Ecton’s sister-in-law, who lives within three miles of the place.

L. M. M. R.

Traditions of a Remote Period—The Chamberlaine Family
(Vol. v., p. 77.).

—As an instance of the “few links” required to connect the present
time with a remote period, I may mention that a grand-aunt of mine who
lived far into the year 1843, remembered perfectly her “uncle
Chamberlaine,”[4] who was an officer in King James II.’s army, and who
fought at Aughrim and at Limerick, thus connecting in her own person the
days of the “Monster Meetings” with those of the Revolution of 1688. She
remembered many of the old soldier’s anecdotes of the stirring times in
which he lived, and I now regret having been so careless as not to have
taken any Note of them. He was, I believe, the last of his race. I hold
his commission, signed by the celebrated Tyrconnell, and also many old
deeds, some of which are prior to the reign of Richard II., and of which
he was said to be very careful, though on examination they have proved
to be of no value, except as antiques.

[4] Her grand-uncle.

As a descendant I should be much gratified if some of your
correspondents could give me any information as to the family of
Chamberlaine, when they came into Ireland, and who is now the chief
representative of that name?

T. O’G.

Dublin. [307]

St. Bartholomew
(Vol. v., p. 129.).

—The parish church of Wednesbury,
co. Staffordshire, is dedicated to that saint; where, in the east
window, is a full-length figure: it is however of modern date.

J. N. B.

West Bromwich.

John Rogers, Protomartyr; Descendants inquired for
(Vol. v., p. 247.).

—The pedigree in my private collection ends thus:

“[5]Rev. John Rogers of Beminster, Dorsetshire, from 1796 to
1810, when he removed to Tisbury, Wiltshire, where he died in
1815, aged 57, leaving two daughters, viz.

[5] Seventh in direct lineal male descent from the
protomartyr.

E. D.

English Translation of the Canons
(Vol. v., p. 246.).

—The Queries of
M. on this subject have arisen out of an error, which I fancy must be
his own. After quoting the clause of the 36th Canon, quodque eodem
taliter uti liceat, he says:

“The English translation, to which subscription is now made, has
the following rendering of the second clause: ‘And that the same
may be lawfully used.’ The word ‘taliter’ seems to be not
rendered at all.”

Of course I cannot tell on what authority he says this; but he is
certainly wrong: for in the Oxford edition (1844) of the Homilies and
Canons this clause stands thus: “and that it may lawfully so be
used.” And so it is printed in Hodgson’s Instructions, p. 8., and in
the Instructions to be observed by Candidates for Holy Orders in the
Diocese of London: and I myself not long ago subscribed to it in this
form. There is then no difference here at all; the Latin being rendered
by the English, not only fully, but literally. I will only add, that the
grammatical meaning of taliter, or so, appears to me in this place
to be plain enough, without requiring a “theological controversy” to
determine it.

F. A.

“Arborei fœtus alibi,” &c.
(Vol. v., pp. 58. 189.).

—I am afraid I
did not make myself intelligible in my former communication. Certainly
W. A. C. does not understand me. The question is, are we justified in
translating alibi atque “otherwhere than,” in like manner as we
translate aliter atque “otherwise than?” W. A. C. takes for granted
that the line in question refers to only one district. But that is the
very point in doubt. The “head master’s” translation makes it refer to
two.

W. S.

Horn-blowing
(Vol. v., p. 148.).

—In reference to this practice, I may
state that a similar custom prevails here (Gainsborough, Lincolnshire),
but on the 29th May, or “Royal Oak Day.” For some days previously the
boys collect all the birds’ eggs they can find or purchase, and early in
the morning of the 29th, they may be seen returning from the woods in
crowds, with an ample supply of oak. They next procure a large quantity
of flowers, with which they construct a garland in the form of a crown,
the apples of the oak being all gilded, surrounded by flowers and
festoons of birds’ eggs. The garland is then suspended across the
street, and every little urchin being provided with a horn, some the
natural horn of the cow, others of tin, similar to those formerly used
by the guard of the mail coaches, they keep up throughout the day a most
terrible blowing of horns; the doleful noise being ill in accordance
with the festivity and rejoicing which the garlands are presumed to
indicate. I have been unable to learn the origin or import of this
singular custom.

T. DYSON.

Gainsborough.

“God’s Love”
(Vol. v., p. 272.).

—If T. S. will refer to Wood’s
Athenæ Oxon., vol. iii. col. 698. edit. 4to., he will find all account
of the author of God’s Love. Wood records an edition of 1659. In the
Bibliotheca Anglo-Poetica, No. 594., was one dated 1679; but I have
now before me the first, which neither Wood nor his editor appear to
have heard of. The title:

“God’s Love and Man’s Vnworthiness: whereunto is annexed a
Discourse between the Soul and Satan. With several Divine
Ejaculations. Written by John Quarles. London: Printed for John
Stafford, and are to be sold at his house in S. Bride’s
Church-yard; and by Humphrey Moseley, at the Prince’s Armes, in
St. Paul’s Church-yard; and John Holder, at the Blue Anchor, in
the New Exchange. 1651.”

Collation: the minde of the frontispiece: 8 lines verse. The
frontispiece, or engraved title: God’s Loue, Man’s Vnworthiness, by
Io. Qu. “Lord, what is man,” &c. Ps. viii. 4. An engraved portrait of
the author, kneeling and saying, “O giue salvation vnto Israell out of
Sion!” (this unknown to Granger or Bromley: the latter records three
other portraits of the author.) Then the title, as given before. The
dedication: “To my much honoured and esteemed Friend, Edward Benlowes,
Esq.” To the Reader. To my Muse: “Tel me, presumptuous Muse, how dar’st
thou treat.” God’s Love, &c., pp. 1. to 66. A Dialogue, &c., pp. 67.
to 108. Pp. 109, 110. wanting in my copy, but probably blank, as the
catch-word “Divine” agrees with “Divine Ejaculations,” [308] which
commence on p. 111. and end at p. 160., thus concluding the volume.

P. B.

Plague Stones
(Vol. v., p. 226.).

—One of these stones is (I believe)
still standing at Bury Saint Edmunds. In a paper read to the Bury and
West Suffolk Arch. Inst. (vide vol. i. p. 42. of the Society’s
Proceedings) Mr. S. Tymms says:

“The small-pox has been a frequent visitor of Bury in its most
terrible forms. In 1677, says Gillingwater (Hist. Bury, 226.),
it was so prevalent that the people resorting to the market by
the Rislygate Road, were accustomed to dip their money in water
(tradition says vinegar) which had been placed in the cavity of
the ruined base of the boundary cross situate at the bottom of
Chalk Lane, with the view of preventing any infection being
conveyed to the neighbouring towns and villages.”

My attention has been frequently called to a stone of similar
description standing in the parish of Stuston in this county, by the
side of the Ipswich and Norwich turnpike; it is called in Kirby’s
Suffolk Traveller, 1st ed. pp. 52-3., a “Stuston Stone” and “The White
Stone,” and is nearly equidistant from Diss and Eye, between two and
three miles.

J. B. COLMAN.

Melody of the Dying Swan
(Vol. ii., p. 476., footnote; Vol. v., p. 187.).—

“Sed neque Cygni canunt,” says Leland, in his Cygnea Cantio,
“nisi flante zephyro vento geniali quidem illo, si quicquam
Æliani judicio tribuendum.”

In the work itself, which is a poetical panegyric on King Henry VIII.,
the following lines occur:

The last line, however, seems only to apply to the applauding sound of
the wings, and not to intimate that any music was produced by them.

C. I. R.

Cimmerii
(Vol. v., p. 188.).

—The belief that the Cymry are descended
from Gomer can prove very little as to the restlessness of those who
hold it; and if it is making progress, the opinion must be supported by
probability: consequently a mere denial will not dispel the illusion.
Authors quite as remarkable for their matter-of-fact opinions as A. N.
may be, have not rejected the connexion of the Cymry with Gomer. For
instance, Volney, in his attacks on Scripture history, when examining
Gen. x. on Gomer, adopts an argument in support of this paternity,
though not in its Biblical sense, viewing Gomer as a chief. As it is not
an unusual circumstance for a nation to adopt the name of its patriarch
or founder (and on this point I would refer to a note to Gibbon’s
Decline, chap. lxiv.), I trust I shall be excused for believing myself
descended from Gomer, until decided evidence is adduced that I am not.

Pompeius Festus I am unacquainted with; but on consulting Plutarch, in
Mario, the following contradictory statements may be seen: “The Germans
called banditti Cimbri;” and, “Hence, therefore, these barbarians who
came into Italy first issued; being anciently called Cimmerii, and
afterwards Cimbri, and the appellation was not at all from their
manners.”

That the old Germans may have called robbers Cimbri, does not prove
that word implies robbers, or anything of the kind; but it indicates
that the intrusion of the old Germans on the lands of the Cimbri caused
the invaded to make reprisals on the invaders; and then the injured
Germans connected or identified the Cimbrian name with that of enemy or
robber.

GOMER.

Stoke
(Vol. v., pp. 106. 161. 213.).

—I think that the towns and
parishes of Tawstock, Culmstock, Tavistock, Plymstock, Stockton
on Tees, Severn Stoke, Stoke in Teignhead, Stoke on Tern, Stoke
on Trent, must have received their names from a stockade of some kind
in the rivers near which they are situated. There is at a ford across
the river Severn, about half a mile from Welsh Pool, a weir made of
stakes and brushwood erected a few yards above the ford, for the sole
purpose of diminishing the force of the current, and spreading the water
into a stream of an uniform depth. I conjecture that in ancient times
the fords of our larger rivers were kept in a passable state during the
winter season by weirs of this description, and that there were fords in
the rivers at the places above mentioned. There is near Nuneaton the
chapelry of Stock in Ford, but I am not sufficiently acquainted with
that place to be able to conjecture from what circumstance it may have
derived its name. I infer that one meaning of the word stoke is wood
of any kind, from the fact that the opening through which coals are
introduced under the larger boilers in our houses is called a
stoke-hole, from the wood formerly used for fuel.

S. S. S. (2).

King’s College Chapel Windows
(Vol. v., p 276.).

—See Blomefield’s
History of Norfolk, vol. i. p. 406., and vol. ii. p. 388. At the
latter reference, under the head of Richard Nykke or Nix, Bishop of
Norwich, 1500, occurs this passage: “This bishop incurred a premunire
for extending his jurisdiction over the Mayor of Thetford, and was fined
for it. With part of the fine, it is said, the beautiful windows in
King’s College Chapel, Cambridge, were purchased.” The statement is
given at greater length at the first of the above-quoted references. I
never heard of the story before I met with it in Blomefield.

T. H. L.

Mr. Blomefield, referring to Richard Nykke, Bishop of Norwich
(1500-1535), says he incurred [309] a premunire for extending his
jurisdiction over the Mayor of Thetford, “and was fined for it, with
part of which fine ’tis said the beautiful painted glass windows in
King’s College Chapel at Cambridge were purchased.”—Hist. of Norfolk,
8vo. edit., ii. 52.; iii. 546.

There is good foundation for the statement that this bishop “was
condemned in the premunire” (Coke’s Reports, xii. 40, 41.); but I
question if there be authentic evidence that he “redeemed the punishment
of that offence by the glasing of the King’s College Chappell windows in
Cambridge.” Bishop Nykke is no doubt the prelate to whom Ferne alludes.

C. H. COOPER.

Cambridge.

Quotation Wanted
(Vol. v., p. 228.).

—”Cujus vita despicitur,” &c.,
is from S. Gregor. Magn. Homil. xii. in Evangelia, § 1.

J. C. R.

The Great Bowyer Bible
(Vol. v., p. 248.).

—J. S. is informed that
this illustrated Bible is now in the hands of Messrs. Puttick and
Simpson, and may be seen at their sale-rooms in Piccadilly.

F. S. Q.

Showing the White Feather
(Vol. v., p. 274.).

—The white feather is
the sign of the cross-bred bird; you will never see one in my tail.

GAMECOCK.

John Lord Berkeley
(Vol. v., p. 275.)

never was Bishop of Ely. John
Lord Berkeley of Stratton, the second son of John Berkeley, was a
British admiral; he died on the 27th of July, 1696-7, not more than
thirty-four years of age, during eight of which he had filled the office
of admiral. See Rose’s Biographical Dictionary.

TYRO.

Dublin.

History of Commerce
(Vol. v., p. 276.).

—C. I. P. will, I think, find
much of the information required in David Macpherson’s Annals of
Commerce, London, 1805, 4 vols. 4to. particularly in vols. iii. and
iv.; also in The History of European Commerce with India, by the same
author, London 1812, 4to. Neither of them is entered in the Bodleian
Catalogue.

C. I. R.

Game of Curling
(Vol. v., p. 13.).

—The third volume of Tytler’s
Lives of Scottish Worthies (No. 37. of the Family Library) contains
a series of antiquarian illustrations, of which the last is devoted to
“Ancient Scottish Games and Amusements.” The author refers particularly
to the MS. accounts of the Lord High Treasurer during the reign of King
James IV. (1488-1513), in which, however, there appears to be no notice
of the “roaring game.” The origin of this favourite amusement is
certainly involved in mystery, and I have repeatedly failed in my
endeavours to ascertain the meaning of the name by which the game is
known. On consulting the abridgment of Jamieson’s Dictionary for the
derivation, I find the following:—

“Perhaps from Teut. krollen, krull-en, sinuare, flectere,
whence E. curl; as the great art of the game is to make the
stones bend or curve in towards the mark, when it is so blocked
up that they cannot be directed in a straight line.”

E. N.

Ancient Trees
(Vol. iv., pp. 401. &c.).

—Notwithstanding the assertion
of Dr. Johnson, many fine specimens of timber have long existed to the
north of the Tweed. At p. 20. of the Edinburgh Antiquarian Magazine
(Edin. 1848) will be found a “List of Scottish Trees, of remarkable
magnitude, as they existed in 1812,” including numerous examples of the
oak, larch, ash, elm, beech, silver fir, Scots fir, sycamore, chesnut,
black poplar, and yew. One of the largest in the catalogue is the great
yew at Fortingal, in Perthshire, measured by the Hon. Judge Barrington
in 1768, when its circumference was no less than fifty-two feet.

E. N.

Paring the Nails, &c.
(Vol. v., pp. 142. &c.).—

“Now no superfluity of our food, or in general no excrementitious
substance, is looked upon by them (the Egyptian priests) as pure
and clean; such, however, are all kinds of wool and down, our
hair and our nails. It would be the highest absurdity therefore
for those who, whilst they are in a course of purification, are
at so much pains to take off the hair from every part of their
own bodies, at the same time to cloath themselves with that of
other animals. So when we are told by Hesiod ‘not to pare our
nails, whilst we are present at the festivals of the Gods,’ we
ought so to understand him as if he designed hereby to inculcate
that purity with which we ought to come prepared, before we enter
upon any religious duty, that we have not to make ourselves
clean, whilst we ought to be occupied in attending to the
solemnity itself.”—Plutarch’s Treatise of Isis and Osiris,
translated by Squire, p. 5. 1744.

This note will show the great antiquity of these nail-paring and
hair-cutting superstitions. What is there does not come from Egypt?

A. HOLT WHITE.

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